rongha_2000
10-18 05:55 PM
Thats not true.. A few days back I read on IV forum itself that around 10K were wasted this year too.
DOS & USCIS will have all data entered into their systems once they receipt all these 320k cases. Using past USCIS processing speed as another input, DOS should be able to issue accurate EB cut-off dates in all categories.
One can only really hope that they do this more accurately atleast by next bulletin & move forward cut-off dates.
In absence of any legislative changes so far, the EB community should really push for processing efficiencies more. (So far looks like atleast no visa numbers were wasted in FY 2007)
DOS & USCIS will have all data entered into their systems once they receipt all these 320k cases. Using past USCIS processing speed as another input, DOS should be able to issue accurate EB cut-off dates in all categories.
One can only really hope that they do this more accurately atleast by next bulletin & move forward cut-off dates.
In absence of any legislative changes so far, the EB community should really push for processing efficiencies more. (So far looks like atleast no visa numbers were wasted in FY 2007)
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monkeyman
08-29 02:05 PM
I checked my bank account today. The checks got encashed.
USCIS issued receipt notice on Aug 27th. Checks were encashed on Aug 28th.
Nothing so far - lawyer says not one check is encashed so far -
USCIS issued receipt notice on Aug 27th. Checks were encashed on Aug 28th.
Nothing so far - lawyer says not one check is encashed so far -
senthil1
05-14 06:07 PM
Actually they did not move purposefully. Demand slowed down for visa numbers because long time the date was not moved. Another point is Companies like TCS,WIPRO are not applying GC and they are the ones using more H1bs. It could move back when demand increases but not so much like 2005. So always waiting time for EB3 will be 3 to 6 years and Eb2 2 to 4 years.
Guys,
The timing of this visa bulletin is suspicious. Right at the nick of time, when the senate is discussing increasing EB quotas, this news comes in. Plus they are saying that there will be forward movement, in the EB cut-off dates in the coming months to rhyme with the current negotatitions in Congress on CIR/ SKIL.
IV should not step behind in their legislation efforts. Even, if visa bulletin dates are current today, they might retrogress later, when the I-485 application starts to process (Current I-485 processing time shows applications processing as of Sept. 10, 2006, which is 8 months before). No one knows, if eight months from now, the cut-off dates will retrogress further or advance, due to the BEC closing out in Sept. 2007 and PERM applications processed from March 2005 onwards.
Guys,
The timing of this visa bulletin is suspicious. Right at the nick of time, when the senate is discussing increasing EB quotas, this news comes in. Plus they are saying that there will be forward movement, in the EB cut-off dates in the coming months to rhyme with the current negotatitions in Congress on CIR/ SKIL.
IV should not step behind in their legislation efforts. Even, if visa bulletin dates are current today, they might retrogress later, when the I-485 application starts to process (Current I-485 processing time shows applications processing as of Sept. 10, 2006, which is 8 months before). No one knows, if eight months from now, the cut-off dates will retrogress further or advance, due to the BEC closing out in Sept. 2007 and PERM applications processed from March 2005 onwards.
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needhelp!
10-22 05:37 PM
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eager_immi
05-30 02:40 PM
I agree this crappy bill better not pass and is worse than retrogression. It is screwing everyone at the cost of giving amnesty to illegals. It is such a joke I would have never imagined that they would have the balls to do this, but I guess they are all politicians!!!
They'll probably start with what Senate passes. and make some minor amendments.
If it passes the house, conference will be piece of cake.
Our best hope is:
1. When senators return to the constituencies for the memorial day recess, they receive a LOT of negative feedback about CIR and enough number of senators change their minds and vote in -ve and bill fails to make out of the Senate. Likelihood: 10-20%.
2. House of reps votes on this CIR and defeats it. Likelihood: 40-60%.
I hope one way or another, this piece of crap fails and I happily get my GC in another 5-10 years. If it passes, I'll have to pack my bags. Amen.
They'll probably start with what Senate passes. and make some minor amendments.
If it passes the house, conference will be piece of cake.
Our best hope is:
1. When senators return to the constituencies for the memorial day recess, they receive a LOT of negative feedback about CIR and enough number of senators change their minds and vote in -ve and bill fails to make out of the Senate. Likelihood: 10-20%.
2. House of reps votes on this CIR and defeats it. Likelihood: 40-60%.
I hope one way or another, this piece of crap fails and I happily get my GC in another 5-10 years. If it passes, I'll have to pack my bags. Amen.
dealsnet
09-02 03:54 PM
This guy is so curious to know what item and from which store ?
Let him know your answer.
Just chill its just shoplifting, its not like you killed somebody. Its not a crime for which there is no way of repenting. If court found you not guilty and you have done whatever punishment, then I don't see why should have to arms length to hide it.
Don't commit another crime by hiding it. Be confident and accept your mistake. Show some remorse. Just have all your papers in line. One of guys I know has some amazing history which will put your shoplifting to shame. He got his GC and living his life in peace. Just don't hide infront of officials. Also don't flaunt it around.
PS: Out of curiosity where was it that you were trying to shoplift?
Let him know your answer.
Just chill its just shoplifting, its not like you killed somebody. Its not a crime for which there is no way of repenting. If court found you not guilty and you have done whatever punishment, then I don't see why should have to arms length to hide it.
Don't commit another crime by hiding it. Be confident and accept your mistake. Show some remorse. Just have all your papers in line. One of guys I know has some amazing history which will put your shoplifting to shame. He got his GC and living his life in peace. Just don't hide infront of officials. Also don't flaunt it around.
PS: Out of curiosity where was it that you were trying to shoplift?
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nefrateedi
08-29 01:32 PM
I found this link, please see and tell me what is your interpretation:
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/UpdateDirectFiling062107.pdf
The effective date of the �Direct Filing� instructions for all of forms I-129F, I-131, I-140, I-360, I-485,
I-765 and I-907 is July 30, 2007, and coincides with the effective date of the fee increase for all immigration benefit applications and petitions. During the first 30 days of �Direct Filing� (July 30 to August 28), USCIS will not reject any form incorrectly filed at the prior filing location. However, applicant must include the correct fee and must meet all other requirements for a proper filing. Beginning on or after August 29, 2007, USCIS will reject any of the forms listed above that are filed with the incorrect filing location. Those rejected and returned forms will include the fee and instructions for proper filing.
Effective July 30, 2007.
Please share your opinion about this....I really want to make sure that I'm safe.
Thanks in advance.
Looks like you're all set...no need to worry!
http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/UpdateDirectFiling062107.pdf
The effective date of the �Direct Filing� instructions for all of forms I-129F, I-131, I-140, I-360, I-485,
I-765 and I-907 is July 30, 2007, and coincides with the effective date of the fee increase for all immigration benefit applications and petitions. During the first 30 days of �Direct Filing� (July 30 to August 28), USCIS will not reject any form incorrectly filed at the prior filing location. However, applicant must include the correct fee and must meet all other requirements for a proper filing. Beginning on or after August 29, 2007, USCIS will reject any of the forms listed above that are filed with the incorrect filing location. Those rejected and returned forms will include the fee and instructions for proper filing.
Effective July 30, 2007.
Please share your opinion about this....I really want to make sure that I'm safe.
Thanks in advance.
Looks like you're all set...no need to worry!
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lazycis
01-15 03:00 PM
Thank you; my reading of the law is also the same. However, a few of years ago (post-2001) both inside and outside counsel hired by my company came to a different conclusion. Hence, my parsing of the words.
Yeah, that's the beauty of being a lawyer, you can interpret the same thing differently, get your money and do not bear any responsibility :)
Yeah, that's the beauty of being a lawyer, you can interpret the same thing differently, get your money and do not bear any responsibility :)
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wandmaker
10-16 04:39 PM
Though USCIS mistakenly has given you H1 approval till May 2011, you will be considered beyond the 6 yr limit and could be held accountable for unlawful presence. End of the day, its your responsibility to make sure you are on the safe side. I have seen a similar case sometime ago where USCIS issued an RFE and the beneficiary had to go through a lot of trouble to get things straightened out. If I were you, I would have your company file an extension considering Apr 2010 as H1 expiry by providing evidence of your first entry to the US on H1 and your current H1 approval notice and asking them for 3 yrs extension based on approved I-140.
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overhere
07-18 11:08 AM
I discussed this to a lawyer. He said that even if I file in August, it will still be accepted since I am qualified to apply in July. This is a bit confusing.
I was thinking of looking for new employer which already has all the paperworks done (10 + 30 days). These are valid until 180 days. I hope to find one so that I can file this July.
hope you'll find one. good luck.
I was thinking of looking for new employer which already has all the paperworks done (10 + 30 days). These are valid until 180 days. I hope to find one so that I can file this July.
hope you'll find one. good luck.
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Charleh
05-28 05:14 AM
You can bind them quite easily, assuming your data sources implement the correct interfaces (I believe IBindable/IBindableList).
You would use the metadata table to fill the list for the combobox and then bind the list to the 'degree' fields on your persons table
There are numerous ways to actually accomplish this, I'll run through a straight forward method using the datasource wizard
1. Drop a combobox onto the page
2. Go to the 'Data Sources' window which is usually docked on the left and add a new data source
3. Pick your data provider (I've picked database)
4. Set up your connection to connect to the database. I've just included the connection data in the application for the sake of simplicity
5. Choose the table you wish to bind to - this will be the 'metadata' table with your degrees
6. Finish the wizard, now in the datasources window you should have your table visible.
7. Drag the whole table onto the combobox
8. The program will assign the DisplayMember and ValueMember of the combobox automatically, you can modify it in the combobox properties - the ValueMember is the underlying identifier (the ID column) whereas the DisplayMember is the value you will actually see in the box
9. Repeat steps 1-6 to add your 'persons' table to the datasources window (you can use the same connection as you used before, you won't need to add another)
10. Once you have added the persons table, in the datasources window expand the persons table so you can see all of the actual columns of the table.
11. Find the column you will be binding to (the degree1 column for instance) and drag that onto the combobox.
12. Finished!
Of course you will need to make sure that a certain record from your persons table is selected as the datasource contains a record pointer - you can always drop a BindingNavigator control on there and associate it with the datasource but it does look a bit 'Microsoft Accesss' so I don't use them. Of course you will probably be getting to your persons form via a persons list in the first place so naturally you will be passing in the persons 'ID' and finding that person in the table using the ID
Either way your combobox is bound - your metadata is bound to the item list of the combobox and the persons tables 'degree1' field is bound to the selected value of the box. Visual Studio tends to be quite intelligent in this respect - if you drag a data column onto a bindable control it knows that it should bind the 'value' of that control to the data source. If you drag an entire data table or data container onto the control it knows to bind any 'list' objects to it.
VS 2008 will have already added the necessary code to 'bind' the objects at runtime - check your 'onload' function in the VB code
Of course you've only really got one thing to bind to on a textbox so you get different functionality (with respect though you can actually bind to any property of a control but most of the time why would you want to?)
This is just an example of how to bind to a control - the data exists in memory, so any changes you make won't affect the database immediately. In fact I'm not 100% on how the data gets written back with tableadapters. You may want to read up on them, I usually use custom objects which implement the bindable interfaces.
Edit:
Looks like you can just use the 'Update' method on the tableadapter and pass in the dataset thats automatically defined for you (the dataset will be holding the actual data you are editing). So if you stick a 'save' button on the page and then in the save method call YourTableAdapter.Update(YourDataSource) that should do it - I'll give it a try!
You would use the metadata table to fill the list for the combobox and then bind the list to the 'degree' fields on your persons table
There are numerous ways to actually accomplish this, I'll run through a straight forward method using the datasource wizard
1. Drop a combobox onto the page
2. Go to the 'Data Sources' window which is usually docked on the left and add a new data source
3. Pick your data provider (I've picked database)
4. Set up your connection to connect to the database. I've just included the connection data in the application for the sake of simplicity
5. Choose the table you wish to bind to - this will be the 'metadata' table with your degrees
6. Finish the wizard, now in the datasources window you should have your table visible.
7. Drag the whole table onto the combobox
8. The program will assign the DisplayMember and ValueMember of the combobox automatically, you can modify it in the combobox properties - the ValueMember is the underlying identifier (the ID column) whereas the DisplayMember is the value you will actually see in the box
9. Repeat steps 1-6 to add your 'persons' table to the datasources window (you can use the same connection as you used before, you won't need to add another)
10. Once you have added the persons table, in the datasources window expand the persons table so you can see all of the actual columns of the table.
11. Find the column you will be binding to (the degree1 column for instance) and drag that onto the combobox.
12. Finished!
Of course you will need to make sure that a certain record from your persons table is selected as the datasource contains a record pointer - you can always drop a BindingNavigator control on there and associate it with the datasource but it does look a bit 'Microsoft Accesss' so I don't use them. Of course you will probably be getting to your persons form via a persons list in the first place so naturally you will be passing in the persons 'ID' and finding that person in the table using the ID
Either way your combobox is bound - your metadata is bound to the item list of the combobox and the persons tables 'degree1' field is bound to the selected value of the box. Visual Studio tends to be quite intelligent in this respect - if you drag a data column onto a bindable control it knows that it should bind the 'value' of that control to the data source. If you drag an entire data table or data container onto the control it knows to bind any 'list' objects to it.
VS 2008 will have already added the necessary code to 'bind' the objects at runtime - check your 'onload' function in the VB code
Of course you've only really got one thing to bind to on a textbox so you get different functionality (with respect though you can actually bind to any property of a control but most of the time why would you want to?)
This is just an example of how to bind to a control - the data exists in memory, so any changes you make won't affect the database immediately. In fact I'm not 100% on how the data gets written back with tableadapters. You may want to read up on them, I usually use custom objects which implement the bindable interfaces.
Edit:
Looks like you can just use the 'Update' method on the tableadapter and pass in the dataset thats automatically defined for you (the dataset will be holding the actual data you are editing). So if you stick a 'save' button on the page and then in the save method call YourTableAdapter.Update(YourDataSource) that should do it - I'll give it a try!
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evildead
01-18 02:54 PM
do you know the reason for the i140 denial? That could be very critical....its just not about what your title is ..and what you do ..its about the whole 9 yards...let us know the reason for denial
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hinvin66
05-13 12:24 AM
IO verbally said last week that it's approved but there is no SLUD, LUD, CPO, PDA or anything else yet.
Still waiting...
Still waiting...
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ramus
06-29 12:50 PM
I was listing to NPR Diane Rim show. Not sure who guests were. But When Diana asked if there is any chance that bill might come back.. He said, no bill won't come back but there is chance that some pieces of immigration may come in seperate pieces in around sep. He did say some bill might come for High skilled.. He gave example of Bill Clinton's health care immigration bill.
Anybody got chance to hear to NPR today?
If anyone is interested in finding what other groups are doing:
Reminder: Today, Friday, June 29, the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform will be hosting a nationwide conference call at 3:00 PM Eastern time to discuss the implications of yesterday�s Senate vote. If you are calling from a land-line, call 1-888-341-6639. If you are using a cell-phone, please call 1-641-594-7000. The access code for both numbers is 65777554#.
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If you find some helpful information, do post on the thread.
Anybody got chance to hear to NPR today?
If anyone is interested in finding what other groups are doing:
Reminder: Today, Friday, June 29, the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform will be hosting a nationwide conference call at 3:00 PM Eastern time to discuss the implications of yesterday�s Senate vote. If you are calling from a land-line, call 1-888-341-6639. If you are using a cell-phone, please call 1-641-594-7000. The access code for both numbers is 65777554#.
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If you find some helpful information, do post on the thread.
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acruix
06-19 12:58 PM
I would like to know if the processing of AOS application is based on first come first processed or is it based on the priority dates ?
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance!
~Anil
Please let me know.
Thanks in advance!
~Anil
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Shailesh76
12-09 10:34 AM
Here is my letter with names out:
Dear Senator,
My name is -------, and I am a highly skilled technology consulting professional from India. I came to the U.S. back in 2000 on employment and since then, I have made an excellent contribution to all the employers that I have worked for. My current work involves consulting in Public Sector for a State Police Agency. I am involved in developing an information system that will increase officer safety, and boost crime prevention and control.
However, I feel that my human rights are being violated.
My wife, --------, is a CPA - a highly qualified and accomplished individual. She cleared the NASBA CPA exam with flying colors in first attempt.
However, she feels her human rights are being violated.
This is so due to an issue called Employer Based Green Card Retrogression.
In these years, we have earned top notch dollars, paid taxes, made charitable contributions, visited numerous craft fairs and bought American products, and participated in the cultural diversity of this country. Highly skilled and accomplished as we are, we don't have a life.
We don't have a life, because we don't have security and peace of mind. We don't have peace of mind because after toiling for more than six years, we are still temporary workers. We don't have a green card yet.
Because we don't have a green card, life has come to a hold. Here's how.
For the longest time we didn't participate in my employer's 401 K plan because we weren't sure if we will get our green card and become permanent residents and hence be able to enjoy fruit of our labor after retirement. I didn�t buy life insurance, or make long term investments for the same reason - unless we get a green card it seems like we are living in an exotic refugee camp. We haven't bought a home because our H1Bs have always been tied to a particular employer, and there is always this chance where if for some reason one of us loses our job, then we will not be able to afford the mortgage and may also have to leave the country in a matter of days, leaving no time for us to sell the house.
Senator, where is my American Dream? Why has America created a temporary workers' program which is completely unfavorable to the worker's quality of life and long term welfare?
My wife's H1B visa is expiring this February 2007, and since her green card was not filed and mine has no chances of showing up in that time, she will have to quit her job and sit at home - almost under house arrest. I can't even imagine what it would do the morale and self-confidence of a dignified woman who has earned her living through her hard work all these years.
Senator, we are in a crisis.
EB Green Card backlogs have resulted for individuals coming from high-demand countries, even when the overall cap has not been reached and regardless of the fact that these high-demand countries are often the only source of individuals capable of filling high-skilled jobs. Those caught in the backlog are forced to spend up to seven years waiting, unable to become true stakeholders in this country, putting their lives on hold in the hopes that a green card will eventually become available to them. Not surprisingly, these talented professionals often tire of waiting and leave the U.S. to put their knowledge and skills to use in other countries eager to compete with and surpass the U.S.
But this need not be the case.
By passing legislation that provides H-1B and EB green card backlog relief, you will be showing your support for enabling the best and brightest from around the globe to contribute their skills and knowledge to the U.S. economy, which is good for American workers, American businesses, and the country�s long-term economic health.
I request your support for the High-Skilled Immigrant Interim Relief Act of 2006 bill introduced in the Senate by Senator Cornyn. This bill provides relief to legal high-skilled immigrants waiting patiently for their permanent residency and gives required impetus to innovation and competitiveness in the U.S. A similar bill popularly known as the Securing Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership (SKIL) bill was introduced in the Senate by Senator Cornyn and co-sponsored by Senators Allard, Allen, Bennett, Enzi, Hutchison and Lott. This bill has also been introduced in the House by Rep. Shadegg and co-sponsored by Reps. Conaway, Doolittle, Flake, Hoekstra, McCaul, Pence, Shimkus and Tiahrt.
I am a member of Immigration Voice, a national grassroots organization of legal high-skilled immigrants. Our organization is committed to helping the United States maintain economic competitiveness by retaining the world's best and brightest talent in the United States.
My family and about 500,000 others are in urgent need of your action in this matter.
Dear Senator,
My name is -------, and I am a highly skilled technology consulting professional from India. I came to the U.S. back in 2000 on employment and since then, I have made an excellent contribution to all the employers that I have worked for. My current work involves consulting in Public Sector for a State Police Agency. I am involved in developing an information system that will increase officer safety, and boost crime prevention and control.
However, I feel that my human rights are being violated.
My wife, --------, is a CPA - a highly qualified and accomplished individual. She cleared the NASBA CPA exam with flying colors in first attempt.
However, she feels her human rights are being violated.
This is so due to an issue called Employer Based Green Card Retrogression.
In these years, we have earned top notch dollars, paid taxes, made charitable contributions, visited numerous craft fairs and bought American products, and participated in the cultural diversity of this country. Highly skilled and accomplished as we are, we don't have a life.
We don't have a life, because we don't have security and peace of mind. We don't have peace of mind because after toiling for more than six years, we are still temporary workers. We don't have a green card yet.
Because we don't have a green card, life has come to a hold. Here's how.
For the longest time we didn't participate in my employer's 401 K plan because we weren't sure if we will get our green card and become permanent residents and hence be able to enjoy fruit of our labor after retirement. I didn�t buy life insurance, or make long term investments for the same reason - unless we get a green card it seems like we are living in an exotic refugee camp. We haven't bought a home because our H1Bs have always been tied to a particular employer, and there is always this chance where if for some reason one of us loses our job, then we will not be able to afford the mortgage and may also have to leave the country in a matter of days, leaving no time for us to sell the house.
Senator, where is my American Dream? Why has America created a temporary workers' program which is completely unfavorable to the worker's quality of life and long term welfare?
My wife's H1B visa is expiring this February 2007, and since her green card was not filed and mine has no chances of showing up in that time, she will have to quit her job and sit at home - almost under house arrest. I can't even imagine what it would do the morale and self-confidence of a dignified woman who has earned her living through her hard work all these years.
Senator, we are in a crisis.
EB Green Card backlogs have resulted for individuals coming from high-demand countries, even when the overall cap has not been reached and regardless of the fact that these high-demand countries are often the only source of individuals capable of filling high-skilled jobs. Those caught in the backlog are forced to spend up to seven years waiting, unable to become true stakeholders in this country, putting their lives on hold in the hopes that a green card will eventually become available to them. Not surprisingly, these talented professionals often tire of waiting and leave the U.S. to put their knowledge and skills to use in other countries eager to compete with and surpass the U.S.
But this need not be the case.
By passing legislation that provides H-1B and EB green card backlog relief, you will be showing your support for enabling the best and brightest from around the globe to contribute their skills and knowledge to the U.S. economy, which is good for American workers, American businesses, and the country�s long-term economic health.
I request your support for the High-Skilled Immigrant Interim Relief Act of 2006 bill introduced in the Senate by Senator Cornyn. This bill provides relief to legal high-skilled immigrants waiting patiently for their permanent residency and gives required impetus to innovation and competitiveness in the U.S. A similar bill popularly known as the Securing Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership (SKIL) bill was introduced in the Senate by Senator Cornyn and co-sponsored by Senators Allard, Allen, Bennett, Enzi, Hutchison and Lott. This bill has also been introduced in the House by Rep. Shadegg and co-sponsored by Reps. Conaway, Doolittle, Flake, Hoekstra, McCaul, Pence, Shimkus and Tiahrt.
I am a member of Immigration Voice, a national grassroots organization of legal high-skilled immigrants. Our organization is committed to helping the United States maintain economic competitiveness by retaining the world's best and brightest talent in the United States.
My family and about 500,000 others are in urgent need of your action in this matter.
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siddhu98
04-26 03:17 PM
Guys, I did the same mistake. I called the customer service and she told me to post the requested change. I did sent my supporting documents, now I did resend another letter asking to correct.
I just reliazed that I too missed the last entry date field and had already sent the supporting docs this morning.. (efiled on last Saturday).
Can you tell us what are docs that you sent to USCIS to correct missing "last entry date"?
1. Confirmation Page
2. Letter explaining the "Date of last entry" was missing and give the last entry date..
I just reliazed that I too missed the last entry date field and had already sent the supporting docs this morning.. (efiled on last Saturday).
Can you tell us what are docs that you sent to USCIS to correct missing "last entry date"?
1. Confirmation Page
2. Letter explaining the "Date of last entry" was missing and give the last entry date..
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fearonlygod
11-14 08:56 AM
Hi
If i requre tha exp letter for i-140 stage then because my employer wont give that....can the client exp letter where i was working from day 1 work..also i hope i can get that from my projet manager and director at client...will this suffice?
If i requre tha exp letter for i-140 stage then because my employer wont give that....can the client exp letter where i was working from day 1 work..also i hope i can get that from my projet manager and director at client...will this suffice?
vivache
11-08 01:28 PM
well .. my priority date is July 2002 .. nd there are 14k eb3 visas wordwide .. until this date.
I agree it is 7%.
Either ways .. out of teh annual 119k visas available .. wouldn't 30% .. 40k be available for Eb3?
In that case .. why is the priority date July 02 ..w hich only accounts for 14k visas .. and not dec 03 .. which would account for 40k visas?
I agree it is 7%.
Either ways .. out of teh annual 119k visas available .. wouldn't 30% .. 40k be available for Eb3?
In that case .. why is the priority date July 02 ..w hich only accounts for 14k visas .. and not dec 03 .. which would account for 40k visas?
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