AlphaBob
Jan 30, 11:39 AM
sigh...Apple exports from China and imports to America. Just another reason not to buy AAPL.
Let's see...this was a discussion about stock prices, so I'll assume this is a discussion about creating value to share holders...
The issue isn't where something is made, it is where the profit is captured. China profits very little from producing the iPods for Apple. Frankly that is why ALL major US corporations produce product elsewhere. It improves their bottom line, which benefits the stock holders.
By being profitable, Apple ensure it has money to spend on R&D and new product development, all of which create US jobs.
And on a practical side, the last time I checked there were no credible supplies of MP3 players manufactured in the USA. In fact, a good deal of the music is from "foreign" bands. So I suppose we should all give up our MP3 players and music, because it would be good for the country, eh?
Bottom line, Apple's manufacturing/sourcing strategy is a positive reason to invest in it.
Let's see...this was a discussion about stock prices, so I'll assume this is a discussion about creating value to share holders...
The issue isn't where something is made, it is where the profit is captured. China profits very little from producing the iPods for Apple. Frankly that is why ALL major US corporations produce product elsewhere. It improves their bottom line, which benefits the stock holders.
By being profitable, Apple ensure it has money to spend on R&D and new product development, all of which create US jobs.
And on a practical side, the last time I checked there were no credible supplies of MP3 players manufactured in the USA. In fact, a good deal of the music is from "foreign" bands. So I suppose we should all give up our MP3 players and music, because it would be good for the country, eh?
Bottom line, Apple's manufacturing/sourcing strategy is a positive reason to invest in it.
samcolak
Apr 22, 11:05 AM
Clarifications:
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.
Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.
BSD is not GNU.
I think you are referring to IO Kit rather than XNU. Darwin (the core OS) features the Mach-O kernel that was created from the merger of BSD and a custom set of APIs coming from the NeXT era - XNU was the child of the merger so to speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system). BSD was used to create the network and filesystem stacks.
BSD is technically NOT what most consider true UNIX. Nowadays (post 1990s we are talking) consider System 5 as "true" unix. It is however viewed as a derivative featuring near-on all UNIX-like services.
It was called System V (5) because of 5 original license holders - SGI, SUN, HP, IBM and Microsoft. (Yes Microsoft licensed Xenix from AT&T in the 1970's - from this came AmigaOS....) in 1982 Microsoft solds its license to SCO and then in 2003 brought it back again....
Lastly, BSD evolved to POSIX and Linux came from that route...
IF someone would like to see a SystemV manual (UNIX) please send an email..
Some of us grew up on a PDP-11..... Scary thoughts... Nowadays im messing with Darwin and OpenDarwin builds :) Crashed a few MBP's rebuilding the kernel a couple of times....
If anyone would like to see the code (and its available at apple although hidden.... see this link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/ - note that XNU is still under APPL and BSD licensing...)
XNU is post 1996 merger. Mach pre merger was 2.9. Post merger is a mix of Mach 3.x with XNU and FreeBSD, plus Apple's own advances.
Everyone who worked on OS X at Apple in Core Engineering was a merging of NeXT Engineering with some Apple Engineers and future talent. Apple bought NeXT for the IP, Code Bases, Tools, Engineering Talent and Leadership.
BSD is not GNU.
I think you are referring to IO Kit rather than XNU. Darwin (the core OS) features the Mach-O kernel that was created from the merger of BSD and a custom set of APIs coming from the NeXT era - XNU was the child of the merger so to speak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system). BSD was used to create the network and filesystem stacks.
BSD is technically NOT what most consider true UNIX. Nowadays (post 1990s we are talking) consider System 5 as "true" unix. It is however viewed as a derivative featuring near-on all UNIX-like services.
It was called System V (5) because of 5 original license holders - SGI, SUN, HP, IBM and Microsoft. (Yes Microsoft licensed Xenix from AT&T in the 1970's - from this came AmigaOS....) in 1982 Microsoft solds its license to SCO and then in 2003 brought it back again....
Lastly, BSD evolved to POSIX and Linux came from that route...
IF someone would like to see a SystemV manual (UNIX) please send an email..
Some of us grew up on a PDP-11..... Scary thoughts... Nowadays im messing with Darwin and OpenDarwin builds :) Crashed a few MBP's rebuilding the kernel a couple of times....
If anyone would like to see the code (and its available at apple although hidden.... see this link -> http://www.opensource.apple.com/release/mac-os-x-106/ - note that XNU is still under APPL and BSD licensing...)
Adidas Addict
Apr 15, 03:09 AM
I've been happily using my old iPhone 3G until a few weeks ago when my partner got herself an iPhone 4. I can't get over how fast it compared to my old chugger! So have had a bout of upgrade-itis since then. The white 4 looks amazing, just hope it gets released in the UK soon.
That70sGAdawg
Apr 14, 07:11 PM
what's about battery drain ? anybody noticed something ?
Uh, it came out two hours ago from when you posted... It might take a little time to judge battery life!
Uh, it came out two hours ago from when you posted... It might take a little time to judge battery life!
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lordonuthin
Oct 20, 10:14 PM
I spent most of the night last night trying to get gpu2 running in wine on the i7 machine but ran into a problem and gave up. But I have found that the issue may not be with my set up, it may be the wu are bad so I will work on that again tonight to see what happens if I can get a different wu. Here is some info. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82110)
I would love to add the points from my 2 gtx 960's especially since that is why I got them :D
I would love to add the points from my 2 gtx 960's especially since that is why I got them :D
elizabethjane
Mar 9, 11:18 AM
Children removed form his custody.
Fired from #1 sitcom on TV.
Going on the Internet and melting down nightly.
Winning, indeed. :rolleyes:
Mhmmm, major winning.
Fired from #1 sitcom on TV.
Going on the Internet and melting down nightly.
Winning, indeed. :rolleyes:
Mhmmm, major winning.
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djkny
Oct 24, 08:13 AM
one bit of good news -- the "older" standard 15" MBP refurbs are now only $1449!
adcx64
Apr 14, 02:37 PM
UPDATE there has been news that Apple will release a "smart TV" in the near future, this could be their 9th product (ix):apple:
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boursin
Sep 12, 08:22 PM
Got this shirt this morning...
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=251394&stc=1&d=1284340699
Sequin
Apr 29, 08:27 PM
This would be awesome news if I hadn't stopped paying for music the second Napster was released
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Compile 'em all
Apr 1, 06:53 AM
My baby boy just pooped and it it is just about the same color of it.:eek:
You sir, just won 9000 internets for this post. Congrats! :D
You sir, just won 9000 internets for this post. Congrats! :D
digitalnicotine
Jan 31, 01:47 AM
@neko girl
Um... what? I mean what did you purchase? (looks cool) :)
Um... what? I mean what did you purchase? (looks cool) :)
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Full of Win
Mar 31, 10:51 AM
UGLY. I hope tey have an option to return it to the unified look of the rest of the OS. If not, I'm sure there will be a terminal hack to being some sense back to the UI.
McBeats
Oct 1, 03:13 PM
wow... that is such ****! pardon my french but that is rediculous... they gonna discount the bill by a 30%? they ought to. totally unacceptable.
I got verizon, and I RARELY get dropped calls nowadays, the service got better over the years... im not gonna lie and say it never happens, but i dont remember the last time i had one.
to be fair with AT&T i gotta ask, are those calls only 30 seconds long or 30 minutes long and then gets dropped? 30 second dropped call would piss me off compared to a 30 minute one. if it drops at 30 minutes AT&T is doing ya a favor not accidently running up the minutes hahah
I got verizon, and I RARELY get dropped calls nowadays, the service got better over the years... im not gonna lie and say it never happens, but i dont remember the last time i had one.
to be fair with AT&T i gotta ask, are those calls only 30 seconds long or 30 minutes long and then gets dropped? 30 second dropped call would piss me off compared to a 30 minute one. if it drops at 30 minutes AT&T is doing ya a favor not accidently running up the minutes hahah
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lmalave
Oct 24, 07:53 AM
anything for macbooks? please?
What I'd like is the base MacBook to drop to $999 and the base mini to drop to $499. That's what the G4 versions cost before they were replaced by the Intel versions.
What I'd like is the base MacBook to drop to $999 and the base mini to drop to $499. That's what the G4 versions cost before they were replaced by the Intel versions.
caspersoong
Apr 26, 06:48 AM
Surprise us, Apple... The 2011 Macbook Pros were disappointment enough for me...
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SkyeHack
Jan 30, 12:29 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5401263439_a17e9bec6c_o.jpg
- MacBook Air
- iPad
- iTouch
- Apple Accessories
Am I part of the Apple Family Now?
- MacBook Air
- iPad
- iTouch
- Apple Accessories
Am I part of the Apple Family Now?
NativeOSXboy
Apr 22, 10:31 AM
It's only BS to you, I don't obsess over appearances, I buy functionality. My self image is not tied to a phone.
Yet it's Apples brilliance, that realizes the average persons low self esteem and need to be seen with cool toys.
They know that great styling causes the consumer to ignore many faults or shortcomings in the product.
That said I'm noticing an interesting trend, it's the feminization of the iPhone.
With its diminutive size and proliferation of jeweled cases, I see more women with iPhones.
Next, with Verizons excellent Droid campaign, its become the mans phone of choice.
Larger, masculine, great new apps for men, not fart apps for juveniles, the rise in Droid X phones is remarkable and highly visible here in Los Angeles and Orange County.
I know at 6'2" the larger phone is far more comfortable to hold, especially for longer calls and such.
I'm enjoying my Android phones immensely.
My Antennagate 4, not so much.
So Apple ties it's image to low self-esteem women, while Android does the same for low self-esteem men? Thats how I interpreted this argument, though, I might have completely missed the point. Mind clarifying? Basically you make it sound like you bought the Android because of how it portrays what a man's phone should be (all about image). Hey then again who doesn't buy a product based on look, feel, or functionality right?
Yet it's Apples brilliance, that realizes the average persons low self esteem and need to be seen with cool toys.
They know that great styling causes the consumer to ignore many faults or shortcomings in the product.
That said I'm noticing an interesting trend, it's the feminization of the iPhone.
With its diminutive size and proliferation of jeweled cases, I see more women with iPhones.
Next, with Verizons excellent Droid campaign, its become the mans phone of choice.
Larger, masculine, great new apps for men, not fart apps for juveniles, the rise in Droid X phones is remarkable and highly visible here in Los Angeles and Orange County.
I know at 6'2" the larger phone is far more comfortable to hold, especially for longer calls and such.
I'm enjoying my Android phones immensely.
My Antennagate 4, not so much.
So Apple ties it's image to low self-esteem women, while Android does the same for low self-esteem men? Thats how I interpreted this argument, though, I might have completely missed the point. Mind clarifying? Basically you make it sound like you bought the Android because of how it portrays what a man's phone should be (all about image). Hey then again who doesn't buy a product based on look, feel, or functionality right?
brewno
Apr 13, 02:51 PM
If Apple is making a TV, it's better be 3D, because I already have a HDTV and the next purchase is going to be a 3D one.
lulla01
Nov 3, 07:27 PM
Why the hell not ?! :)
you have great taste my friend, id love one of these myself.
you have great taste my friend, id love one of these myself.
salmonstk
Apr 26, 12:49 PM
my bet is its free for a year with any purchase of a Mac, iPhone, iPad, or ipod touch.
Then perhaps $20 a year after. Which if true would mean few people would ever pay as long as you rbuy a new Mac or iPhone or iPad every couple of years
Then perhaps $20 a year after. Which if true would mean few people would ever pay as long as you rbuy a new Mac or iPhone or iPad every couple of years
salmonstk
Apr 26, 12:42 PM
I don't really know what the BFD is with the hype around these music locker services. These services are nothing new (not that Apples does anything new), they have been around in smaller scale the past few years. Problem is, it took too long to upload music, the streaming quality was average at best, and they were too expensive.
I'd like to see how Apple would improve on these services. They will integrate into the iPod UI. That is great. Possibly better upload times (or no uploading at all). But the benefits end there. Cellular connection are slowing at a quicker rate than cellphones are becoming faster. And now we data caps?
Is anyone on here going to delete all the music on their iPhone to be able to pay $20 per year to regain a subpar stream of there very own music? And at a detriment to their limited data amount? Am I missing something??
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT STREAMING. It is going to be about smart syncing media across Macs & iOS devices. You wont delete all your music on your phone or Mac BUT you wont have to have all of it stored locally to have access to all of it. This is going to be how Apple transitions Macs to Flash storage but still allows one to have gigantic iTunes and iPhoto and iMovie libraries. Same with phones and iPads.
I'd like to see how Apple would improve on these services. They will integrate into the iPod UI. That is great. Possibly better upload times (or no uploading at all). But the benefits end there. Cellular connection are slowing at a quicker rate than cellphones are becoming faster. And now we data caps?
Is anyone on here going to delete all the music on their iPhone to be able to pay $20 per year to regain a subpar stream of there very own music? And at a detriment to their limited data amount? Am I missing something??
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ABOUT STREAMING. It is going to be about smart syncing media across Macs & iOS devices. You wont delete all your music on your phone or Mac BUT you wont have to have all of it stored locally to have access to all of it. This is going to be how Apple transitions Macs to Flash storage but still allows one to have gigantic iTunes and iPhoto and iMovie libraries. Same with phones and iPads.
notabadname
Apr 22, 05:48 PM
That seems impossibly thin. Where are they going to put the hardware? Take the thickness of the glass and backlighting & the back-plate away and there's nothing left on the lower half.
Sceptic here.
Sceptic here.
Daveoc64
Apr 24, 07:58 PM
I just seen a T-Mobile commercial where they threw an iPhone 4. :(
Sounds a bit different to the sort of ads T-Mobile has in the UK:
http://youtu.be/Kav0FEhtLug
Sounds a bit different to the sort of ads T-Mobile has in the UK:
http://youtu.be/Kav0FEhtLug
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